Flying the Boeing 737 Max 8: A pilot’s view from inside the cockpit

Capt. Dennis Tajer of American Airlines and the Allied Pilots Association explains what it’s like to fly the Boeing 737 Max 8, and why a new flight control system was a surprise to pilots. That system could have played a role in two recent Max 8 crashes. Read more: wapo.st/2HGASfo. Subscribe to The Washington Post on VNchannel: wapo.st/2QOdcqK
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  1. Charlie Christie

    Charlie Christie

    2 giờ trước

    I know people who fly on business once in a while. NONE of them will ever fly on this plane again.......I remember when the DC-10 aircraft lost engines in the 70's. People said they would never fly them again,so Douglas renamed the plane the "A300 Whisperliner" and everybody got on board and off they went......

  2. Paul Van Tries

    Paul Van Tries

    8 giờ trước

    Stall a 737 Why ? dont do that ! Crazy. Pilots know this, Give the plane back to the pilots. Different airplane Oh no not that. That's nuts.

  3. Ed Petrovski

    Ed Petrovski

    Ngày trước

    Nope...not until the CEO of Boeing gets on randomly chosen 737 Max and flies in it a hundred times.

  4. Wreckanize

    Wreckanize

    3 ngày trước

    Stop blaming boeing. They never even wanted to make the MAX. They know they couldn't do it feasibly. They were working on the yellowstone replacement for the 737, but the airlines wanted a revamped 737 because that's what airbus did with it's a320. Unfortunately, a design choice in the 737 in 1960 lead to the plane being built lower to the ground, to ease in aircraft loading, a design choice by the airlines, not boeing. This lead to boeing having to place the engines at a higher/awkward position on the MAX to avoid it from striking the ground. boeing did all this just to appease the airline industry. Yes, they were at fault, but so were the airlines.

  5. yongchao teng

    yongchao teng

    3 ngày trước

    You post this 8 days after the Ethiopian accident What are you doing

  6. pete travis

    pete travis

    7 ngày trước

    Both crashes happened where ISIS are very active. Boeing was targeted. The stall sensors were sabotaged on the ground. ISIS have not claimed responsibility because the effect is exactly what they hoped for. A huge hit to the US economy.

  7. stimproid

    stimproid

    8 ngày trước

    I want to reply to all the comments from people who say the MAX is unstable.....but I have been cautioned that it is not worth my time to argue with idiots.

  8. stimproid

    stimproid

    8 ngày trước

    That was some slick (slimy) editing.

  9. Donald Cary

    Donald Cary

    8 ngày trước

    Still just an aluminum can ✅

  10. Franklin Jones

    Franklin Jones

    10 ngày trước

    Lazy Crew

  11. fared pgt

    fared pgt

    10 ngày trước

    team airbus

  12. BT Trade

    BT Trade

    10 ngày trước

    Well looking back, the "software enhancements" to the MCAS obviously didn't work as proven by the fateful Ethiopian crash that claimed another 162 lives. Boeing should go to jail along with United Technologies that made the faulty anti-stall sensor that fed wrong information to the MCAS system.

  13. nyckhusan

    nyckhusan

    11 ngày trước

    After all MCAS system modifications and limitations on MAX planes it no more capable to compensate design flaw with new larger engines on existing old frame, so pilots will have to learn to prevent stall conditions themselves. To fly this Max they will learn not to be just operators on plane but to control it any situation ( if Boeing will reveal to them all hidden features of these planes).

  14. Carolyn C

    Carolyn C

    12 ngày trước

    how is updating the software system going to fix the airplane deign flaws. The whole reason they came up with the MCAS is to fix the position of the engines?

  15. Syed Ahmed

    Syed Ahmed

    12 ngày trước

    Boeing has to prove that 737 MAX is safe WITHOUT the use of MCAS. MCAS does not solve the root cause of aerodynamic the problem. It mask it ! Safe aircraft does NOT require MCAS!

  16. L R G

    L R G

    12 ngày trước

    Smart airlines who ordered the MAX, and have yet to take first delivery, will ditch the bird in favour of something else.

  17. Mandeep Singh

    Mandeep Singh

    13 ngày trước

    Not flying Boeing ever they chose $instead off safety,

  18. love bato

    love bato

    13 ngày trước

    too much automation! let humans fly the plane

  19. Edmundo Rodriguez

    Edmundo Rodriguez

    15 ngày trước

    You just described the aerodynamics deficiencies of this passenger aircraft. Seems like your trying to justify the handling of it like a fighter aircraft

  20. ytg50162011

    ytg50162011

    15 ngày trước

    Boeing and the FAA are criminals in the case of the 737 Max. What does FAA stand for? Fake Aviation Assholes?

  21. BREXIT FOREVER

    BREXIT FOREVER

    15 ngày trước

    SHAME ON YOU WASHOUT PIST POST

  22. Si K

    Si K

    15 ngày trước

    I think this guy was paid by Boeing !!

    • charles harper

      charles harper

      12 ngày trước

      No, he's a pilot that flies Boeing planes, understands them, and doesn't ant to get fired...

  23. vram k

    vram k

    15 ngày trước

    one golden rule when buying things involved in software ..alway buy one version earlier to avoid bugs, Indonasia is the one who are the early adoptors who found a costly one

  24. gf31415 gfrz

    gf31415 gfrz

    16 ngày trước

    It isn't am enhancement. It's a redesign of something that killed 300 people. Just to save money.

  25. mike hill

    mike hill

    16 ngày trước

    Dumbasses...it's a word that helps me recognise humans that are not functioning properly ...

  26. Happy Happy

    Happy Happy

    17 ngày trước

    MCAS - Many Casualties And Suffering.

  27. afatchur

    afatchur

    17 ngày trước

    The pilot is the speaker for Boeing, not for the pilot association. The tone in his remarks is 100% positive for Boeing, how come a pilot is not voicing his interest?

  28. JOHAN LAMPRECHT

    JOHAN LAMPRECHT

    19 ngày trước

    Nice Boeing commercial. I guess they need it after the realities of this amazing new design became real and 346 people died

  29. aurelio milaor cabal

    aurelio milaor cabal

    19 ngày trước

    BOEING 737MAX : World Record holder for most flights crashed of a single model in 5 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  30. DP ie

    DP ie

    20 ngày trước

    Boeing logic: 1. Lets reuse an aircraft design from 1967 to save cost, put 2 huge new engines that does not really fit and thereby make the whole aircraft unstable. 2. Then we create a secret software MCAS to stabilize the aircraft. 3. To save even more cost we make the extremely critical MCAS system only rely on a single sensor. (Industry standard is normally 2 or as Airbus does, 3). 4. To make even more money, lets sell the sensor malfunction warning system as an option, but still not tell about what MCAS does. 5. To save even more cost lets make sure MCAS is not described in the manual, nor include any mention about it in the 2hour Ipad training video to pilots. 6. Lets save even more cost by not having ANY indicator to the pilot that the MCAS system is active, and that the pilot is no longer in control of the aircraft. 7. To save even more cost, lets tell FAA that the aircraft is perfectly safe and approve it ourselves. 8. When the first aircraft crashed, lets blame it on pilot error. 9. When the second aircraft crashed, lets pretend it was minor glitch but hint that a very minor software upgrade might be needed. Try to minimize lawsuits but using very cryptic weasel language. 10. Finally lets pretend that this unstable aircraft, relying on a single sensor will become “the safest aircraft ever designed “ and force everyone to continue flying it.Lets pay FAA bribes to certify it. 11. Lets tell the world that Boeing cares about safety first..... This is total greed and deception. Boeing’s CEO and FAA’s chairman should be sent to prison. All Boeing 737 MAX 8 should be grounded permanently. Boeing! Do the right thing-Design a new safe, fuel efficient aircraft. Until then....I will avoid this model like the plague.

    • Charlie Christie

      Charlie Christie

      2 giờ trước

      DP, I am a 65 year old,so I have "been there and done that." I could not have written your piece any better. Thank you !!

    • Z15TEEN

      Z15TEEN

      5 giờ trước

      You explain everything I wanted to know in simple easy to understand POINTS. 👍👍👍

    • TheChiefEng

      TheChiefEng

      2 ngày trước

      +Wreckanize Partly correct. Boeing had spent 4 years not being able to agree in management whether they should develop a new type narrow body airplane. Those discussions started in 2006. When Airbus announced the 320 Neo in 2010, it came as a bit of a surprise because they had managed to keep the development of the 320 Neo more or less secret. However, Boeing first felt compelled to do something quickly when they learned that American Airlines had ordered a bunch of 320 Neo airplanes. Boeing made a deal with American Airlines that if Boeing could make an updated 737, American Airlines would buy it. Boeing was not really forced into this but they knew at that point that they would lose out if they did not push something into the market quickly because a whole new type would have taken longer and have been much more costly to get certified than making another 737 type airplane. That part of the story tragic as it may be is not the main problem in all of this. The main problem is that Boeing initially sold an airplane with a piece of software that neither airlines nor pilots were aware of. How the 737 MAX could get certified the way it did by FAA has also directed the light on FAA. Nobody outside USA will ever trust anything coming out of FAA at face value again. Boeing will recover eventually, although criminal charges should be brought against their entire senior management for the 346 dead passengers, but FAA has lost all credibility for a very long time.

    • Wreckanize

      Wreckanize

      3 ngày trước

      You couldn't be more wrong. Boeing never wanted to make the MAX. The airlines pressured them into redesigning the 737, boeing was working on a replacement instead.

  31. Paralyzer

    Paralyzer

    20 ngày trước

    iPad course and Then you fly it. Damn thats cool, I wonder if thats the reason 346 people are dead now 🤔

  32. 優さん

    優さん

    22 ngày trước

    In a few months time, Airbus should probably buy Boeing out as it will be close to going bankrupt Then China can come in and buy Airbus and there you have it ...

    • Bernd Arndt

      Bernd Arndt

      19 ngày trước

      Sorry but that is not possible as Airbus is a cooperation supportet by the eu and Boing is supported by the us. The two of them will never go bankrupt as long as they get supported.

  33. NEWKNOWLEDGE

    NEWKNOWLEDGE

    22 ngày trước

    Thanks to MCAS, you're go to go, six feet under.

  34. Extreme System

    Extreme System

    23 ngày trước

    it was a test to see if a plane can fly totally autonomously, the synchronized takeoffs prove it

  35. Crazy Clown

    Crazy Clown

    23 ngày trước

    *MCAS = May Crash any Second 👍👍*

  36. Philip McNiel

    Philip McNiel

    23 ngày trước

    I'm not sure how so many people think this is an ad for Boeing, or that it's biased in their favor, since the part that starts at 1:55 discusses how the pilots weren't given enough information to know what was happening or--unless they figured out it was an *intermittent* runaway trim--how to correct it. At 3:32 he even criticizes--in professional, non-sensational words--Boeing for not telling them all of the facts or providing them with complete information.

    • Philip McNiel

      Philip McNiel

      8 ngày trước

      +stimproid I don't know whether I'd go so far as to say that (though I won't argue with you, as I can't prove you wrong either). I just know that I don't see any reason to say that it's edited or scripted to make Boeing look better.

    • stimproid

      stimproid

      8 ngày trước

      Agree. It was even edited and cut together to make Boeing look worse.

  37. GooglR Ratings

    GooglR Ratings

    23 ngày trước

    Good decision to send the recorders to France and not the corrupt USA.

  38. GooglR Ratings

    GooglR Ratings

    23 ngày trước

    MCAS wouldn't be needed if the plane didn't have an aerodynamic design flaw. Design the damn planes properly and then you won't need computer making hundreds of corrections in the air just to keep this flying coffin from falling out of the sky. Hundreds of people's lives at stake, and they release an app and hope it will keep people safe. Let pilots fly properly designed machines without software necessary to keep it airborne.

  39. GooglR Ratings

    GooglR Ratings

    23 ngày trước

    This is what a flying coffin looks like.

  40. Deepak Kissun

    Deepak Kissun

    24 ngày trước

    So this plane is not stable. .with MCAS and without. ..why companies investing in it when other plane manufacturers are there. .

  41. Philip Dow

    Philip Dow

    24 ngày trước

    I never fly with anything with MAX in the name anymore

  42. Art Emis

    Art Emis

    24 ngày trước

    Sounds a lot like the corporate reassurance clips we'd hear in the 60s and 70s...."There is no cause for alarm"... This whole thing is utterly reprehensible and it's sad to see how Boeing's standards have slipped. The reality is that the 737 Max is a hastily botched together plane that's an attempt to compete with the A320 neo. The fact that a system such as MCAS has been added in itself tells us that the plane is more prone to unrecoverable stalls than the 737 - why else would the system be there? The 737 Max fundamentally lacks adequate lift when nose up compared to the old 737. That's why there's a software botch to mess with the control surfaces and keep the thing flying. A quick run through with an iPad, again is an attempt to cut costs and rush the plane into existing 737 crews. It makes me sad to say this, because in the past Boeing changed the World with their aircraft but this plane needs a redesign. The flattened low edge of the engine cowling and the higher, more forward mounting point show us that these larger engines don't really fit on this airframe. The heavier engines further forward have shifted the centre of mass fore and so nose-up it stalls at a lower angle even with the same adequate airspeed. No software will change that. I'm also sad to say that if this defect were on an Airbus then we know what the US government's reaction would be - threats would come flooding. Since it's a US plane they're much happier to indulge Boeing. Redesign needed!

  43. iiKeysiex

    iiKeysiex

    24 ngày trước

    boeing and malaysia are the worst they always crash

  44. Vishal Gupta

    Vishal Gupta

    25 ngày trước

    Simply don’t want to fly on this aeroplane no matter what the way....

  45. Joe Lee

    Joe Lee

    26 ngày trước

    How much did Washington Post get paid for this irresponsible PR for Boeing?

  46. Shaune Huolohan

    Shaune Huolohan

    26 ngày trước

    Could Captain Sully land an unpowered 737 max?

    • stimproid

      stimproid

      8 ngày trước

      Any proficient pilot could.

  47. Desy Moynes

    Desy Moynes

    26 ngày trước

    Death trap this aircraft can't fly without the aid of a computer unlike other passenger aircraft where the computer is there to assist the pilot the Max 8 should never have been allowed to leave the ground "Blood on Boeings hands"

  48. Paragon Jaya Teknik

    Paragon Jaya Teknik

    27 ngày trước

    Thank you Ipad & Boeing !!! You save company alot of money and cause people life !!!

  49. K. S.

    K. S.

    28 ngày trước

    "it WAS an enjoyable plane to fly" - let's hope it stays that way.

  50. broomsterm

    broomsterm

    28 ngày trước

    Don't stall the damned thing.

  51. SuperGreenlaser

    SuperGreenlaser

    28 ngày trước

    Cost of doing buisness Boeing?

  52. Zaalim Rajput

    Zaalim Rajput

    29 ngày trước

    Times Up for Boeing. SORRY

  53. Seah Han Sheng

    Seah Han Sheng

    Tháng trước

    No one fking care about what u say anymore. This air plane is doom for its safety and design failure.

  54. Pity me Nonchalang

    Pity me Nonchalang

    Tháng trước

    Why that software when you have a trained pilot for the aircraft. So many lives

  55. Andrea Mendes

    Andrea Mendes

    Tháng trước

    BOYCOTT Boeing 737 MAX aircraft period!!

  56. Edward Jam

    Edward Jam

    Tháng trước

    Fucken American greed!!!

  57. Occams Razor

    Occams Razor

    Tháng trước

    The problem is that an airplane is a big, complicated network of interconnected parts. To get the engine under the 737 wing, Boeing engineers had to mount the engine nacelle higher and more forward on the plane. But moving the engine nacelle (and a related change to the nose of the plane) changed the aerodynamics of the plane, such that the plane did not handle properly at a high angle of attack. That, in turn, led to the creation of the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS that this pilot makes out too be a blessing instead of a BAND-AID! Yeah, It fixed the angle-of-attack problem in most situations, but it created new problems in other situations when it made it difficult for pilots to directly control the plane without being overridden by the MCAS. NOTE that the underlying problem isn’t really software; it’s with the effort to use software to get around a whole host of other problems.

  58. Valerie Griner

    Valerie Griner

    Tháng trước

    So...56 minutes of training on an iPad. Hmmmm. That really sucks.

  59. GL K

    GL K

    Tháng trước

    He should be a Boeing spokesman.

  60. marc atkinson

    marc atkinson

    Tháng trước

    MCAS is band-aid to save money for Boeing. The entire airframe needs to be re-designed to accommodate huge diameter HBTF engines. This plane is a coffin. I will never fly on it.

  61. Integrity Guo

    Integrity Guo

    Tháng trước

    Why he wasn’t flying those doomed planes? That would be ironic right?

  62. lsb3340

    lsb3340

    Tháng trước

    Congrats Boeing, your race killed people.

  63. Roy Gutfinski

    Roy Gutfinski

    Tháng trước

    Boeing should have originally developed the 737 Max flight control software around the scenario of a "design basis accident," in which failure of sensor inputs was anticipated and allowing all flight control to revert immediately to full crew override of the MCAS system. It appears that is what is being done now, but why was it not done before the aircraft series was allowed into service?

  64. Rumen Lazarov

    Rumen Lazarov

    Tháng trước

    Watch the VOX video that explains why they had to create the MCAS. Basically these scumbags couldn’t keep up with Airbus that were able to put bigger engines on existing planes that save money for airlines. Boeing are killers

  65. Ray Gao

    Ray Gao

    Tháng trước

    Just wake up! I will not ever fly on these planes. Boeing needs to write them off. The plane has fundamental flaws. (it is too low to the ground, so the bigger engines has to be moved to the front, while Airbus Neo planes did not need to do so). Basically the Plane is flawed with air dynamics, it is basically unstable to fly itself and need constant correction. Bad design bad plane, avoid it to save your life and your families lives.

  66. Budi Situmorang

    Budi Situmorang

    Tháng trước

    MCAS, killing my colleague at Lion Air Flight 610 crash!

    • Doctor F

      Doctor F

      Tháng trước

      Budi Situmorang ... it’s a terrible and shocking loss of life. Entirely unacceptable that people died for this bullshit.

  67. anton brum

    anton brum

    Tháng trước

    The courtroom and the huge loss of life will determined whether this aircraft flies again, not Boeing nor the FAA. Both airline and passenger confidence are needed. What if there is is another crash, who's head will be on the chopping block?

  68. Anthony Almgren

    Anthony Almgren

    Tháng trước

    Shouldnt this just be a photo of the ground

  69. Todd Lavigne

    Todd Lavigne

    Tháng trước

    engines are more forward on the wing, so therefore the center of gravity has moved forward, meaning it's a little more prone to nose down bias. MCAS isn't so good at low altitude.

    • John Majane

      John Majane

      Tháng trước

      Wrong they are at out front and more powerful producing a moment arm that pitches the nose up when in the "clean' configuration. The MCAS is there to help the pilot by pitching the nose down to counteract that issue at high angles of attack.

  70. Jafan Fauzi

    Jafan Fauzi

    Tháng trước

    I smell bullshit and capitalism here

  71. RoamArrow

    RoamArrow

    Tháng trước

    2:30 so basically the causes of the crash is negligence of putting the system in their training system?

  72. Alikou Brujup

    Alikou Brujup

    Tháng trước

    Just curious, are those 2 new engines are the rootcause?

  73. Imogen Harrison

    Imogen Harrison

    Tháng trước

    Once again. American commercial interests put above safety. Disturbing and shocking. But in the Trump era of economics, not surprising.

  74. Milos Radojcic

    Milos Radojcic

    Tháng trước

    Fack the Boeing , Airbus is no 1

  75. anselm sequeira

    anselm sequeira

    Tháng trước

    Reminds me of the time I worked for a company that made modems. They had fired a lot of the older engineers because they didn't know new technologies like C programming. So they ended up with engineers who could program in C but knew nothing about modems. I have been in a Boeing 747 simulator in 1978. The pilot told me that with the plane on auto-pilot he could take the controls and the controls would not 'fight back'. The auto-pilot would automatically disengage and then resume after he let go of the controls.

  76. chris quirke

    chris quirke

    Tháng trước

    56 minutes shame shame shame

  77. Kimmy Middleton

    Kimmy Middleton

    Tháng trước

    BOEING NEEDS TO ANSWER FOR THEIR OVER 300 COUNTS OF NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE!!!!!!!!!!! IDGAF WHAT ANYONE SAYS..THIS IS A FACT!!!!!!!

  78. Dwi Cahyo Prasetyo

    Dwi Cahyo Prasetyo

    Tháng trước

    People life = iPad lesson. wow

  79. Edward

    Edward

    Tháng trước

    There should have been two sensors...or 3 if possible

  80. Ewan Black

    Ewan Black

    Tháng trước

    It would be interesting to find out the number of instances that MCAS activates on a regular flight for EVERY Max8 out there - is it a once in a blue moon occurrence, or an every flight occurrence - or even multiple times on every flight occurrence - as this will determine from a personal level - whether or not I'll ever fly in one.

  81. Frank Lee

    Frank Lee

    Tháng trước

    Boeing makes a plane cannot fly straight. Even William Boeing could not believe it.

  82. MrAlwaysBlue

    MrAlwaysBlue

    Tháng trước

    Between a rock and a hard place. Switch off MCAS via trim disable and you are flying an unstable aircraft. Good luck with that.

    • Alain DUMAS

      Alain DUMAS

      17 ngày trước

      Switch off MCAS and you may not get an unstable plane but you will have switched off the electric trim on the yoke as seen during the last minutes of the doomed Ethiopian 737. You are left with the steel cable link, the equivalent of the cable hand brake on a car, which would have required superhuman strength given the high speed of the plane. Fortunately, unlike Boeing, the car companies did not tie the two inputs. The ABS computer can fail or be disabled by removing a fuse and the hydraulic pedal brake will work as usual.

    • John Majane

      John Majane

      Tháng trước

      It is not unstable. You do know that Airbus is completely fly by wire all computer and is unstable don't you? There have been issues with them also but it seems for some reasons people want to destroy a US company and give others a pass.

  83. Jeff Bourke

    Jeff Bourke

    Tháng trước

    737 Max should never fly again.

    • cvcoco

      cvcoco

      Tháng trước

      @Jeff Bourke it wont if people will refuse to fly in it. I never will.

  84. Jeff Bourke

    Jeff Bourke

    Tháng trước

    0:24 "complements to boeing for whatever control laws they put in"

  85. julini

    julini

    Tháng trước

    Just book me on an airbus already, flying is risky enough without some software point the nose down. You make radical changes to a plane, then please demand radical training, not reading on an ipad for less than an hour then taking off with 140 souls on board. These are two accidents too many, totally unacceptable.

  86. suhail1452

    suhail1452

    Tháng trước

    MCAS MEANS "MAY CRASH ANY SECOND"

    • Z15TEEN

      Z15TEEN

      4 giờ trước

      That's a way to memorize that shortcut.

    • Z15TEEN

      Z15TEEN

      4 giờ trước

      Hhhh. 👌👍

    • Triple A

      Triple A

      3 ngày trước

      Funny and Good Shortcut.

    • WRAITH!

      WRAITH!

      5 ngày trước

      +Eric Bedenbaugh That sounds about 153.8 times more badass than MCAS

  87. formerib

    formerib

    Tháng trước

    Case study in cutting corners. Boeing feeling competitive pressure from Airbus Neo (after they ignored it initially) they decided to keep stretching and modifying the 40 year old 737 platform instead of designing a brand new modern one. This was to save money and time. And to also make a competitive argument that the Max is same as old 737 and thus no training needed. But went too far with the limits of that 40 year old 737 airframe design. They made it unstable. Engines size and thrust are an integral part of the aerodynamics and balance of an aircraft. They simply stretched the plane too much and put too big of an engine on it that they upset the balance of the aircraft. MCAS was invented to stealthy correct a problem that did not exist with any of the previous 737 variants. Keep the plane from stalling because the engines under certain conditions can throw the nose up. And they designed it to act quietly in the background to give the impression that the plane did not need special training to fly and is no different the the previous 737’s. To make matters worse they did not document any of that. To make matters even worst the MCAS correction ability was more than an order of magnitude higher than what it was “certified” for as Boeing changed the limits (during the test flights) AFTER certification was granted and did not tell the FAA or document it for the airlines. And to make matters even even even further worst, they stupidly designed MCAS to receive input from a single sensor thus making it too prone to failure due to single false input (angle of attack). This was a managerial and engineering FUBAR. This will take Boeing down. One of the largest engineering FUBARs in aviation history. CEO and entire senior management team should be fired immediately.

  88. Robert Stewart

    Robert Stewart

    Tháng trước

    MCAS. Make Crashing Automatic System. Its a faulty aircraft. they should not have to make correction software. A plane that cannot fly straight and level with all flight systems set at neutral should not be certified to carry passengers

  89. cndvd

    cndvd

    Tháng trước

    Sounds like you should leave the two switches for MCAS off all the time. Then it won't take over the plane.

  90. mari kiuchi

    mari kiuchi

    Tháng trước

    After the 2 crashes, if i lost my family in the crash. i would hate this pilot who is so confident in the safty of the 737 MAX.

  91. King Mojo

    King Mojo

    Tháng trước

    A design flaw lead to the introduction of the MCAS, which sends the aircraft nose down lazy Boeing should have redesign the whole fuselage this plane not safe to fly.

    • John Majane

      John Majane

      Tháng trước

      +King Mojo many planes exhibit the same behavior, rapid pitch up under full power. My Bonanza in the landing configuration will pitch up strongly when you apply full power during a go around. You must push hard on the yoke while putting in down trim. Unchecked the plane would stall. The design flaw was with the MCAS. Only one source of information, nothing in the manual, no indicator it is working or has failed, no emergency procedures. The fact is the Ethiopian plane suffered an failure previously and a pilot riding jump seat pulled the breakers per Boeing's instructions and they flew the rest of the flight. The accident pilots pulled the breakers then reset them against the new procedures. I never said it wasn't Boeing's fault but the design error is in the MCAS not the plane.

    • King Mojo

      King Mojo

      Tháng trước

      +John Majane The MCAS was set up to compensate for the aircraft design flaw....Boeings fault mate

    • John Majane

      John Majane

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      It was not a design flaw. They recognized that there had to be something to counteract the pitching up at full power and they put the MCAS in. The design flaw was having it get it's information from one source instead of two to have a referee and then also not putting the system in the manuals, not including a failure indicator or at least one that showed it was engaged and not having a procedure.

  92. Tomas Av.

    Tomas Av.

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    WOW WHAT A PAID PROMOTION FOR A KILLER PLANE.

  93. SV methos

    SV methos

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    And 90% chance of dying.

  94. Allen Yeong

    Allen Yeong

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    Boeing claim MCAS installed is to offset a stall, when Boeing explain a stall, they put up a photograph of a 737 at 45 degree with wind flowing horizontally, and that is not what is happening, when the plane is at 45 degrees and at high speed, wind does not flow horizontally as claim by Boeing, but should be flowing horizontally with the plane, and therefore stalling will not occur, period

  95. jan kowalski

    jan kowalski

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    I am a biomedical engineer. For example a dialysis machine has 5 or at least 3 sensors for monitoring critical parameters. For redundancy. 737 max employed one AOA sensor! That is a No No.I can't believe an engineer decided on that. How can we trust Boeing product and FAA again?? Next I am a sailor. I let the controls of my boat loose and it will position itself upwind in a safe position. 737 max seems is unstable by design. It needs computer to keep it stable. Probably the plane has to be redesigned. And Boeing management replaced with real engineers.

    • John Majane

      John Majane

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      +jan kowalski basically what I said. Nothing to referee the system, no indication it is active or has failed. No mention of it in the manuals either. They screwed up. There is also an issue with the pilots, many are trained in the simulator, have no small plane experience where you learn the basic reflexes and why things happen and what to do.

    • jan kowalski

      jan kowalski

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      +John Majane ok. I am just saying. To control critical parameter automatically - like plane's pitch. And to rely on one AOA sensor for this. Is something I had never seen in medical equipment - to make a comparison. Minimum two sensors are needed for something like this. With an alarm in case of disagreement. And autotest of the system and sensors before takoff. If engineers came up with one sensor design. That is even worse and really really bad.

    • John Majane

      John Majane

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      Not unstable, the system is to counter a pitch up movement when the engines are at full power and the plane is in the clean configuration. This was an engineering decision not a management decision.

  96. BR549

    BR549

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    This guy reminded me of that line in Driving Miss Daisy, when Daisy said "I thought I was going to spit up."

  97. Your Best Secretary

    Your Best Secretary

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    I'm not going to risk my life flying in this plane. There shouldn't be any scenario for any stall to happen to any plane in mid air. I'm not an engineer but I don't like to fly on a plane whose big engines title the plane's nose at such a dangerous angle that a mid air stall has become the expected events that need to be corrected. It's like cooking on a stove that is going to explode once it reaches a certain temperature and I'm supposed to be vigilant in monitoring the temperature while cooking to avoid an explosion. To me, this plane seems to have an inherent design flaw which is dependent on the use of an additonal software to correct, and the software in turn creates an additonal mechanism for the possibility of mistakes and mulfunction.

  98. Hugh Mungus

    Hugh Mungus

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    There’s a lot of aircraft experts in this comment section🤔

  99. tiffsaver

    tiffsaver

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    There's actually a name they give people who fly the Boeing 737 Max 8: "Kamikazi Pilots."

  100. DAV

    DAV

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    Boing you were dumb stupid. Now you will pay wait and see. No excuse for stupidity.

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